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Abraham 3:11 · Ether 12:39

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Pearl of Great Price Abraham 3:11
"Thus I, Abraham, talked with the Lord, face to face, as one man talketh with another; and he told me of the works which his hands had made"
Book of Mormon Ether 12:39
"he hath talked with me face to face, and that he told me in plain humility, even as a man telleth another in mine own language"

Shared words: he told me

Shared theophany idiom: the paired formula 'face to face' + the man-talketh clause (Abraham 3:11 'as one man talketh with another'; Moses 7:4 'even as a man talketh one with another'; Ether 12:39 'even as a man telleth another'). The bare 'face to face' is common across the Book of Mormon (Alma 38:7, 2 Nephi 33:11; martial sense Alma 2:29, Mosiah 10:19); the fuller man-talketh clause joins it at three theophany verses across the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price: Abraham 3:11; Moses 7:4 ('even as a man talketh one with another, face to face'); and Ether 12:39 ('telleth'). 1 Nephi 11:11's 'as a man speaketh with another' is a near-variant without 'face to face' in the verse. Counting rule: the man-converse clause — 'as a man' or 'as one man' followed by talketh, telleth, or speaketh — over the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price chapter files; the frozen Old Testament adds a carrier that joins both halves of the paired formula, Exodus 33:11 'And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend' (corpus-wide the bare clause stands at five verses, 1 Nephi 11:11 carrying it twice). Divergence: 'talketh with another' (Abraham) vs. 'telleth another in mine own language' (Ether 12:39, Moroni's testimony of the Lord's face-to-face converse with him). Reported as a shared-phrasing fact, no dependence claimed. No verse-pair collision.

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